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True Romance (1993)
IMDB rating: 7.80
Plot: Clarence Worley, a penniless hipster in Detroit with a love for Elvis meets a mysterious hooker paid to meet him named Alabama on his birthday in a theater at night. Falling in love, he makes it his mission to dispose of her past, namely her violent pimp, Drexl Spivey. Defeating him and unknowingly taking a vast fortune of Cocaine, the two fight to sell the white gold in Los Angeles as Drexl’s associates fight to reclaim it in a bloody romantic thriller full to the brim with style.
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True Romance
Directors: Scott Tony
Actors: Slater Christian,Rapaport Michael,Kilmer Val,Pinchot Bronson,Hopper Dennis,Oldman Gary,Pitt Brad,Sizemore Tom,Walken Christopher,Jackson Samuel L.,Rubinek Saul,Gandolfini James,Argo Victor,Adonis Frank,Action,Crime,Drama,Romance,Thriller,
Book Writers, Anthro-Furry lovers and haters, HELP!?
My question is complicated, but it’s practically destorying my mind and I need a collective of opinions.
I have been writing a steampunk/romance/adventure novel series for two years. I love it to death, and I’m confident that I can get the piece published. My question is what to do when staying true to your original story will help or hinder the book’s publishability.
I care about getting published. Why would I do all of this work for something I didn’t believe in? But my resolve of keeping my human-animal hybrid cast of characters as that. When I created my story, I didn’t know what a ‘furry’ was, or that there was this entire subculture sexual fetish attatched to it. I had just seen Dr. Dilber Doppler, Amelia, and Robin Hood from Disney and thought that those kinds of characters were cool and went in my own direction wtih it. And now, whenever someone asks me about my work, I break into a cold sweat. I’ve been called furry, told to ‘go yiff in hell’ and a bunch of other really negative shit. I get that some people are into that kind of thing…turns out my little brother is! Okay, fine, I’m cool with selling entertainment and fanfiction fodder to people who dress up in costumes. But will changing my story’s cast into humans just be more beneficial?
Now that I’ve changed the first twenty pages into human-based, I feel like I’ve drained a lot of the fun and the little kearnal of originality I had out of it. It feels flat. Dead. But it would be a LOT more comfortable for people to read, publication would be a LITTLE easier, and there would be a much more broad audience.
What do you guys think? I gotta submit this to my Fiction Workshop class in two weeks and I’m completely divided as to which version I present. Is this me being too sensitive and I need to develope a thicker skin, something different? AURH ANY thoughts would be appriciated!
I recommend you go for a half human/anthro story. I know some great literature that has never become mainstream just because of the fact that it contains no human characters. Take the web comic Ozzy and Milly. It is an excellent, intellectual comic that has been considered for syndication several times, but has always been turned down because of the fact that it features no human characters.
On the other hand, many stories have received wide-spread review that contain a few anthro characters in them. Examples range from Star Wars to Twilight. This should be the easiest way to remain true to your source material while attracting a wider audience.
I have a question though. Why did you classify being called a "furry" as negative ****? I have been a devoted fan of the fandom for going on five years now and although there are those weirdos who do disturbing stuff, only someone who is totally uneducated about the fandom would attack it.
I suggest you do your research into the positive aspects of the furry fandom to give yourself an adequate defense if you are attacked over your work again. Something along the lines of "Well, Im not a furry, but even if i was…"
Also, if you do go all anthro for your story, I recomend looking into the pubisher "Sofawolf Press", they are the main publisher of first-time writer’s antropomorphic fiction.
Good luck on your book! If it is published, I will most assuredly read it.
| Feb 02, 2010
Stick with your original idea and then after a certain about of time….. or say a certain amount of rejection letters…… go ahead and change it.
Basically there is a fetish for everything and if we all wrote trying to stay out of a fetish’s particular area of interest, there would be a whole lot less creativity in the world.
I wrote a sci-fi/ fantasy novel, sent it out to a bunch of agents and literary houses, after 50 rejection letters I decided a re-write was in order, especially because many of the letters spoke of how they loved the story but found holes in plot or continuity. You will be amazed at how many people there are that will give you helpful rejections. LOL!
Submit as is, you have no idea how many people will ‘get’ your concept and hey, if you get a few extra fans cuz they’re a little kinky…. more power to you.
Catherine P | Feb 01, 2010
Arm yourself with the collected works of Cordwainer Smith and write what you want.
These books were around before a few freaks dressed in fuzzy costumes came up with their favorite way to get their freak on. Do you realize how ridiculous your worries sound compared to the rampant barely hidden bondage gear in most vampire novels?
not a top con & proud | Feb 01, 2010
Don’t change the characters into humans, their is a sexual side to the furry fandom but few people in the fandom are actually in it just for that and we have to show this with things like what you have done (congrats on besting me as i was going to do that)
your story will be very original since no one publishes these kinds off books which should make it somewhat popular and you would at least be able to sell it to the fandom.
sedagon regale | Feb 02, 2010
Forgive me for answering a question with another question.. but when someone told you to yiff in hell, did this happen online? or in person?
It seems like theres a lot of bad publicity floating around online about the furry fandom. It seems like all the hatred is on the internet.
I have never been told "yiff in hell" to my face.
Most people out there don’t even know what a furry is. Seriously, I have a "furry inside" (looks like the intel inside) sticker on the back of my car and I never get any comments about it. my car has never been egged, vandalized, hit with a baseball bat, or anything like that.
If you’re confident about your book the way it was originally written, then I say go for it. I wanna read it! tell me what its called so I can be on the lookout!
Furry really isn’t a sexual fetish. I certainly don’t see it as one, but there are sickos in every group that make the rest look bad.
Midnight | Feb 02, 2010
Well you’re the author; it’s your choice.
If I were you I’d stick to the original plan, it’s apart of ‘aim’, although ‘trolls’ tend to scream the loudest they are actually a minority. Imagine: If not, it’s like being a chef, you prepare to make a dish and then you change the ingredients half-way through – it leads to instability, but you could always do a full rewrite, however, it’s not like you are in high competition compared to the mainstream so it’s quite a good field to aim at it, especially if you’re aiming at the media market.
Although it may be aimed at a wider audience, what if, at the time, people are seeking publications that are ‘different’ to usual – such periods happen even in the mainstream media market, especially after the publication of a popular book at the time, the mainstream audience then splits into two – cult fans of that ‘popular book’ (if any), and those seeking something widely different, alike your book. Whatever your aim, it’s a good idea to look into the market first, I’m sure there’s a few organizations that can help you wish this if you ever get to the stage, otherwise it remains ‘lower classed’.
Another option is to describe the characters widely, so any depiction can be use as to what they were, since we’re talking about anthropomorphic animal characters here, we could note to be ‘anthro’ is to be human, since the characters act like human, noting neither the features of the character as a person nor an ‘anthropomorphic animal’ will let you then decide what you then wish to change in the future. Therefore, you leave the story as a template, then when you later decide you could make two or more adaptions to the book, with anthro or human characters. As we have known, there are plenty of such books, ‘person novels’ are turned into ‘anthro novels’ and vice versa, with limited description it is sometimes best. Since ‘anthros’ are just animals with exaggerated, humanised features, this may be a more trivial of a task to handle – as ‘human’ character descriptions equal those exaggerated in ‘anthros’.
But if you’re aiming more at describing explicitly such features rather than focusing on the actual story, this may actually be more difficult, however this varies with the publication’s genre. Since, for example, ‘Drama’ describes more the little details of the characters, their movements and their emotions; and things like ‘Adventure’ describe and explain more the story itself.
I’d continue with whatever you’ve got right now.
P.S. There’s no such thing as ‘part-human/part-anthro’. ‘Anthros’ are animals with ‘human-like features’, often (but not always) with the ability to speak, etc, ‘already’. To make the characters more ‘human’, you should aim for ‘animalization’ as opposed to ‘Anthropomorphism’, by giving human characters ‘animal-like features’. This style, however, is often less liked (generally, historically speaking). Most anthropomorphic animals walk on two legs and the ability to speak anyway, which could be considered more ‘therianthropy’ than ‘anthropomorphism’ but for brevity here I use the most used terminologies.
Lupus Gabali | Feb 02, 2010
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Thanks to everyone that helped out. I just watched it online for free it was okay.
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